
Leon Trotsky, if he lived in Wales today, would support Welsh independence. He would not only be doing that because Labour has abandoned its socialist principles, by scrapping clause IV, killing over a hundred thousand innocent civilians in Iraq in a neo-imperialist war and cutting taxes for the richest 6% of families while raising them on the poorest. He would also do it because he, along with Lenin, was genuinely progressive when it came to the question of self-determination of oppressed nations, like Wales:
"the British Socialist who fails to support by all possible means the uprisings in Ireland, Egypt and India against the London plutocracy - such a socialist deserves to be branded with infamy, if not with a bullet, but in no case merits either a mandate or the confidence of the proletariat."
[Leon Trotsky - 'Manifesto of the Second Congress of the Communist International", adopted 7th August, 1920.]
For Ireland read Wales and Scotland today.
Also consider this from Lenin:
"The right of nations to self-determination implies exclusively the right to independence in the political sense, the right to free political separation from the oppressor nation.... The proletariat demands a democracy that rules out the forcible retention of any one of the nations within the bounds of the state." [Lenin, National Liberation]
Trotsky & Lenin would support Welsh independence
Posted by Welsh Ramblings on Friday, 31 October 2008
Labels: Iraq, Ireland, Labour party, Leon Trotsky, Plaid Cymru, socialist, supports, Vladmir Lenin, Welsh Independence
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I agree.
Marx wrote of Ireland that it was necessary for workers in UK to back Irish independence. I think the same holds true for Wales and Scotland today. And England, for that matter! We don't want the imperial British government either!
Not sure here - Trotsky alienated a great many of the Left (like Victor Serge) by his role in the Kronstdat rebellion, and Lenin wasn't known for respecting the claims of the 'satellite' republics around Russia. It's clear that their support for Ireland was part of the international revolution programme and designed to cause maximum shit to capitalist countries - not any sort of belief that small nations per se have a right to be free.
I'm with you on what you say about the Labour party, of course, and I happen to think that Trotsky was one of the greats.
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